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Angus King: “The Ukrainians have been very creative and resilient.”

Featuring: Angus King, Independent | U.S. Senate Maine

A Conversation With Senator Angus King

Published July 13, 2023 | Video Starts at 21:20

Remember the TV show where the guy could, you know, he could build a nuclear submarine from a paperclip and a Swiss arm? Shoelaces. Yeah, exactly. But I heard that term, and that's an apt description. The Ukrainians have been very creative and resilient. number one. Number two, we provided some serious help to them in protecting their networks. Number three, why didn't we have a major cyber attack on this country? (21:20–21:25)

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