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Marcus Hawkins: “Every market that is a multi-state wholesale power market…”

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Electric Wire, Ep. 39 - Marcus Hawkins discusses his role leading the Organization of MISO States

Published August 31, 2023 | Video Starts at 11:21

And so what is now known as a regional state committee was kind of, that idea was put out there. And so Every market that is a multi-state wholesale power market has what's known as a regional state committee. And so OMS is a regional state committee. And so when MISO went back to FERC and got approved as a regional transmission organization, they're in their founding documents there … (11:21–11:29)

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“There are seven organized wholesale markets in North America.”
Electric Wire, Ep. 39 - Marcus Hawkins discusses his role leading the Organization of MISO States | Uploaded August 31, 2023 | 27:45-27:50
“MISO is the biggest geographically. It goes from Manitoba all the way down to Mississippi.”
Electric Wire, Ep. 39 - Marcus Hawkins discusses his role leading the Organization of MISO States | Uploaded August 31, 2023 | 27:55-28:02
“PJM is the largest market based on sales and peak capacity.”
Electric Wire, Ep. 39 - Marcus Hawkins discusses his role leading the Organization of MISO States | Uploaded August 31, 2023 | 28:42-28:48
“2/3 of the electricity demand in the US is part of an RTO.”
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“The commission regulates utilities that operate under this big wholesale market, [MISO, the Mid Continent Independent System Operator].”
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“The commission needs to understand [MISO] and it needs to weigh in at the MISO level to represent their own interests.”
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“In the early 2000s, it was really a federal policy push to introduce wholesale competition for electricity.”
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“It was coming from the Energy Policy Act and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to encourage competition of generation.”
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“MISO was created, and their energy market really wasn't stood up until 2003.”
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“OMS came into existence [in 2003] as FERC was promoting RTOs.”
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“OMS is a regional state committee.”
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“MISO has evolved over time to take on more responsibilities over the power grid.”
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“MISO is in year two or three of its Long Range Transmission Planning Initiative.”
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“MISO is analyzing the transmission system needed to support future generators 20 years down the line.”
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“The states still have authority to cite transmission in their borders.”
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“MISO is talking about changes to how they establish how much capacity is required to serve customers.”
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“MISO does a study every year to determine how much capacity is needed to meet the riskiest day.”
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“Some states have prescriptive integrated resource planning processes given by their legislatures.”
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“Wisconsin does not have an IRP process but uses the Strategic Energy Assessment.”
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“The OMS is a nonprofit entity, like a trade association of the state commissions in [MISO].”
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“We are overseen by a board of directors and it's one commissioner from each of those member agencies.”
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“The utilities in their state are heavily impacted by what is happening at MISO and happening at the FERC level.”
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“We are weighing in at FERC at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.”
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“MISO sets the capacity requirement, but states are technically allowed to set their own requirement.”
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“MISO is a multi state energy market, they have a set of Rules called their tariff that has to be approved at FERC.”
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“OMS has the most members at 17.”
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“MISO used to be a smaller footprint that stopped in the boot heel of Missouri.”
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“The Entergy states integrated into the MISO system over a five-year transition period starting in 2013 and concluding in 2018.”
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“MISO is responsible for maintaining reliability for that whole footprint as one system.”
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“MISO is part of the larger eastern interconnection that includes 36 states, a couple provinces, and the District of Columbia.”
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“MISO oversees all transactions across its seams.”
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“The majority of load is served by a utility that itself is served by a larger RTO.”
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“MISO is ensuring that no resources that are more expensive than they need to be are running.”
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“RTOs have a huge hundreds of millions of dollars of benefit, you know, annually type of impact on customers.”
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“OMS conducts a survey with MISO called the OMS MISO Resource Adequacy Survey.”
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“Most of the time in the out year, [the survey] shows a shortage.”
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“OMS and MISO have partnered on [the survey] for about 10 years now.”
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“The types of resources that are coming on the system are changing.”
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“FERC issued Order 2222, which opened up these wholesale markets to aggregated distributed energy resources.”
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“Transmission is subject to NERC requirements, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation.”
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“Most of what MISO does and what OMS does happens in the open.”
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“Nuclear plants were losing money at certain times due to some of the rules of these wholesale markets.”
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“With this big decarbonization push across the country, a lot of utilities are seeing these [nuclear] plants that they retired early and…”
Electric Wire, Ep. 39 - Marcus Hawkins discusses his role leading the Organization of MISO States | Uploaded August 31, 2023 | 50:44-50:57
“The Nuclear Regulatory Commission doesn't like [the idea of unretiring nuclear plants].”
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“Great enhancing technologies can really optimize the use of the transmission system.”
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“These technologies aren't always in the best financial interest of some of the utilities.”
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