Sometimes conservative customers don't want to maybe take on new things. And so how we bring along the system, that's why We need like systems engineering type thinking for this global problem. And it's the same thing in wildfires, too. It's like you need to really take a step back and look at this problem with all your hats on with engineering hat on. (32:11–32:16)
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