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Elon Musk: “I think maybe we should pay politicians more, frankly…”

Featuring: Elon Musk, Senior Advisor to the President, Head of Department of Government Efficiency | National

oe Rogan Experience #2281 - Elon Musk - Part 2

Published February 28, 2025 | Video Starts at 1:17:50

Yeah, he's great at trading. He's such a Good trader. Yeah. Yeah. So this, it's. I mean, so, yeah, there's. I mean, that's why I actually posted on X. Like, I think maybe we should pay politicians more, frankly, because it reduces the forcing function for graft. You know, I think maybe we should either pay politicians nothing or. Or maybe a lot more. Maybe counterintuitively, if politicians got paid a lot more, then they wouldn't feel like that. (1:17:50–1:17:59)

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“No one has ever developed a fully reusable orbital heat shield.”
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“We had to vertically integrate the entire manufacturing of the tile from basic raw materials to a finished tile.”
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“I think we'll probably recover the ship sometime this year and then we might be able to refly1, but probably with a fair bit of work by the…”
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“Reduce the cost of access to space by a factor of 100.”
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“We've taken over 50 people, over 50 astronauts [to orbit and back].”
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“We do it routinely, basically. It's not a. We've, we've been doing this for a few years.”
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“Probably about four weeks or so. It's depending on weather and other considerations. It's about a month away.”
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“Obviously we, we could have brought them back way sooner.”
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“The Earth and Mars orbits synchronize every two years or every 26 months technically.”
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“The default plan is to launch hopefully several starships to Mars at the end of next year.”
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“Mars at closest approach is roughly four light minutes. And when it's on the other side of the sun, it's about 12 light minutes.”
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“I think we can do this in, I don't know, at least I think we do it within 15 Earth Mars synchronization events or you know, so basically…”
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“I think as a rough approximation, we need about a million tons to the surface of Mars, maybe a million people.”
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“At current birth rates, in three generations, Korea will be about 4% of its current size.”
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“They're only at one third replacement rate. So if you have three generations, that's your 1 27th of your current population, which is 3%…”
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“Basically, population collapse happens fast, so it seems to be accelerating in most parts of the world.”
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“No trips to Mars have failed because of micrometeorites.”
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“If you hit the main heat shield, you've got a high risk of not making it back.”
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“I always thought AI was going to be way smarter than humans and an existential risk.”
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“The whole idea of creating OpenAI was my idea.”
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“OpenAI has turned into a closed source for maximum profit AI.”
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“GROK is at least aspirationally a maximally truth seeking AI, even if that truth is politically incorrect.”
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“They were literally Saying that, like, Trump is. Yeah. Worse than Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin combined.”
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“The Clinton campaign funded a fake conspiracy theory, a fake Russia collusion hoax regarding Trump that was completely false.”
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“They also repeated the fine people hoax that said that Trump called Nazis neo Nazis fine people, which is demonstrably false.”
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“Insider trading. And just there's the curious case of how do people in Congress or whatever become wealthy over time?”
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“You can upload your X rays and your MRI images to Grok and it'll give you a medical diagnosis.”
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“Doesn't that seem like an odd coincidence?”
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“How come never nobody ever followed them and doxed them?”
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