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Elon Musk: “GROK is at least aspirationally a maximally truth seeking…”

Featuring: Elon Musk, Senior Advisor to the President, Head of Department of Government Efficiency | National

oe Rogan Experience #2281 - Elon Musk - Part 2

Published February 28, 2025 | Video Starts at 42:05

And that's what they did. Yeah. Wow. So I'm not happy about that. But that motivated you to get Grok AI going. Yeah. I'm also just a bit worried GROK is at least aspirationally a maximally truth seeking AI, even if that truth is politically incorrect. So I mean, you may have seen some of the crazy stuff from OpenAI and from Google Gemini, where it says generate an image of the founding fathers and it generates an image of diverse women. (42:05–42:13)

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Asserts that GROK aims to be a truth-seeking AI, regardless of political correctness.

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“I know these weapons manufacturing companies like Boeing, Lockheed and Northrop...they do not have, there's no breakthrough that they have.”
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“We're launching a rocket every two days.”
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“UFO resolution has stayed flat despite megapixels and cameras going super high.”
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“There have been multiple times where the Air Force or Navy has called SpaceX and said they think they've seen aliens.”
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“Those are our satellites. They're moving at 16,000 miles an hour.”
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“They're not stealthy against any advanced radar system, by the way. It doesn't work.”
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“The fundamental breakthrough we're aiming for at SpaceX is a fully and rapidly reusable orbital rocket where both stages are fully and…”
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“Once you have full and rapid reusability, the cost of access to space drops by a factor of 100.”
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“It can drop the cost of going cost per ton to the surface of Mars by a factor of 10,000.”
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“I think we'll achieve reusability of the ship this year and I think we'll achieve rapid reusability of the whole stack ship and booster next…”
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“No one has ever developed a fully reusable orbital heat shield.”
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“We had to vertically integrate the entire manufacturing of the tile from basic raw materials to a finished tile.”
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“It would take them several months, like eight, nine months to refurbish a space shuttle between each flight.”
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“I'm confident that [the problem of tile cracking] is solvable.”
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“I think we'll probably recover the ship sometime this year and then we might be able to refly1, but probably with a fair bit of work by the…”
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“Reduce the cost of access to space by a factor of 100.”
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“We've taken over 50 people, over 50 astronauts [to orbit and back].”
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“We do it routinely, basically. It's not a. We've, we've been doing this for a few years.”
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“Probably about four weeks or so. It's depending on weather and other considerations. It's about a month away.”
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“Obviously we, we could have brought them back way sooner.”
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“The Earth and Mars orbits synchronize every two years or every 26 months technically.”
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“The default plan is to launch hopefully several starships to Mars at the end of next year.”
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“Mars at closest approach is roughly four light minutes. And when it's on the other side of the sun, it's about 12 light minutes.”
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“I think we can do this in, I don't know, at least I think we do it within 15 Earth Mars synchronization events or you know, so basically…”
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“I think as a rough approximation, we need about a million tons to the surface of Mars, maybe a million people.”
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“At current birth rates, in three generations, Korea will be about 4% of its current size.”
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“They're only at one third replacement rate. So if you have three generations, that's your 1 27th of your current population, which is 3%…”
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“Basically, population collapse happens fast, so it seems to be accelerating in most parts of the world.”
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“Six months? Yeah, six months, roughly.”
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“No trips to Mars have failed because of micrometeorites.”
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“If you hit the main heat shield, you've got a high risk of not making it back.”
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“OpenAI has turned into a closed source for maximum profit AI.”
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“The Clinton campaign funded a fake conspiracy theory, a fake Russia collusion hoax regarding Trump that was completely false.”
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“I just completely lost respect for Obama when he repeated that lie a few days before the election, knowing it's false.”
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“You can upload your X rays and your MRI images to Grok and it'll give you a medical diagnosis.”
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“You can literally take a photograph of your blood work...upload that to Grok, and it will tell you if there's...something wrong.”
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“Doesn't that seem like an odd coincidence?”
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“How come never nobody ever followed them and doxed them?”
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