And that's why we say here that our defense industry, our defense efforts, I can say is our second largest economic driver outside of tourism, first largest during COVID by the way, Non defense spending is about $18 billion, but that includes Social Security, Medicare and veterans. Remember, that's mandatory spending. It's going to come in regardless of appropriations. This is. This totals about 11.2. (31:06–31:16)
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