And if we stand by and allow a thug like Putin to rape and destroy Ukraine and, and gain that critically important strategic ground there. Strategic for him. It's vital. It's vital for him, and it is very dangerous. I, I think It's unfortunate that sometime long ago that we didn't just overnight declare that Ukraine was a member of NATO. because that might have been the deterrent necessary. Now it's going to be. It's going to take a lot of courage going forward, and we'll probably negotiate that away. (54:01–54:11)
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Asserts that Ukraine should have been declared a NATO member earlier to deter aggression.
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