What we did is we covered this in, in the hearing that I held. But we're also working with Calvin Drogenmeier, who many of you may know was the science advisor in the first Trump administration. He Calvin Drogenmeier... has gathered research institutions, academia, universities... and they have come up with a new model that's called the fair model. the fair model. I always sort of bristle at the term indirect costs because they're more accurately called research related costs, and that's what we should refer to them. (16:25–16:54)
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Asserts that Calvin Drogenmeier and others developed a new model called the fair model for indirect costs.
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