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Ron Johnson: “If you do Trump's 2019 spending, it'd be about 6.5.”

Featuring: Ron Johnson, Republican | U.S. Senate, Wisconsin

Senator Ron Johnson's Wisconsin Town Hall: Addressing Federal Spending, Medicaid, and Immigration Concerns

Published July 14, 2025 | Video Starts at 05:03

Again, I don't think we spent too little in 1998. If you do the same thing for Obama 2014, that'll be about 6.2 trillion. If you do Trump's 2019 spending, it'd be about 6.5. So no matter how you slice it, that's you're saving somewhere between a half a trillion to 1.5 trillion over current expenditures. That would go a long way toward putting us toward balanced budget. (05:03–05:07)

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Asserts that adjusting 2019 spending for inflation and population would result in $6.5 trillion spending today.

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“Biden had more than 12,000 [migrants] average for some periods there.”
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“For every dollar the state spends on that Medicaid patient, the federal government kicks in $9 for every disabled child.”
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“A dollar you held in 1998 is now worth 51 cents.”
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“For every dollar the state kicks in, the federal government puts in $1.33 [for disabled children].”
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“Democrats had the same situation, the presidency, the House and Senate in 2021, 22, as much as they complained about we were cutting taxes…”
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“They could have rescinded any part of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act. They didn't do that.”
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“They just kept massively spending and incurring on average about $1.9 trillion in deficit.”
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“When you have over 2,600 programs in the federal budget, my belief is that we could eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds…”
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“If you take, for example, Clinton in 1998, I think he spent some at $1.7 trillion. If you increase that based on population inflation, spend…”
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“If you do the same thing for Obama 2014, that'll be about 6.2 trillion.”
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“No matter how you slice it, that's you're saving somewhere between a half a trillion to 1.5 trillion over current expenditures.”
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“What we're trying to do is fix the Obamacare extension or expansion called Medicaid expansion.”
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“The $9 to $1 match which has completely distorted Medicaid and is actually crowding the vulnerable out of the dollars as well as the…”
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“They were on a 10 year waiting list because they're being crowded out by single, childless working age able body adults.”
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“One of the reasons ICE goes to courthouses to arrest people who are in this country illegally and committing an illegal act is it's the…”
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“Media doesn't cover the horrific rapes and murders perpetrated by people that were welcomed to this country by the Biden administration.”
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“Preventing a massive $4 trillion automatic increase.”
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“We reduced the deficit by about $400 billion.”
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“When you increase spending by 2.1 trillion in just one year, it's meager.”
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“Social Security is a legal Ponzi scheme.”
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“When the trust fund runs out, benefits will be reduced to match the revenue coming in to be somewhere between 75 and 80% in 20, I think now…”
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“The average deficit projected is about well over $2 trillion a year.”
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“There were dozens of workers supporting one beneficiary and the retirement age was set at 65 back then when life expectancy was a little bit…”
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“We have less than three workers supporting every person on Social Security.”
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“Democrats calling that kids in cages.”
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“I've got faith in Customs, Border Patrol and ICE.”
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“The Biden administration opened up our borders completely unvetted and let millions and millions of people, including members of incredibly…”
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“The administration does have deportation orders on these people. They know they're criminals.”
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“He simply will not tolerate, for example, the largest state sponsor of terror having a nuclear weapon.”
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“We're paying two or three times what we pay for Medicare services [for Medicaid services].”
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