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Pete Buttigieg: “More and more people, I think, on both sides are pessimistic…”

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Pete Buttigieg Interview

Published October 1, 2025 | Video Starts at 37:43

I mean, it still is a bipartisan concern, but feels very different now in. Terms of the anger that's been brewing on both sides over the past couple years. Yeah. I mean, More and more people, I think, on both sides are pessimistic about a two state solution. but I can't think of anything better. Yeah. As far as overall American intervention, one of the big things that Trump ran on was not being an interventionist. (37:43–37:48)

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“I think the statistic is something like 50% of the graduating class of Princeton in the 40s went directly into the military.”
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“We had about 4 billion people get on an airplane on my watch. And zero crash fatalities in commercial airline crashes.”
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“We got 20,000 projects done and about 70,000 projects started.”
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“Some of the oldest freestanding structures in the world are these megalithic temples [in Malta], like, older than Stonehenge.”
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“Today, some companies are hiring less at the entry level because of AI.”
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“AI is getting good at writing code.”
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“White collar as well as blue collar jobs that are on the line.”
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“I don't think it'll be like 50% unemployment, but I do think that you'll see certain categories of jobs where suddenly like a huge chunk of…”
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“I was already mayor in South Bend.”
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“I got reelected...with more votes than I did the first time around.”
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“This is in, like, Indiana's a conservative place, right? This is while Mike Pence is the governor of Indiana.”
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“If you look into the history of what made it possible for people like me to have rights...a lot of that was advocates and activists who were…”
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“The Trump administration apparently trying to put a thumb on the scale of election by getting Eric Adams a new job so he'll get out and…”
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“The experience of young people is policy failure.”
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“You're supposed to be able to at least hope to purchase your home and that's not happening.”
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“Trump, like ripping out Medicaid and making your premiums go up by getting rid of the Obamacare subsidies makes health care more expensive…”
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“Republicans have stopped paid family leave in this country.”
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“People like me went from not able to get married to able to get married in the short span of my adult lifetime.”
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“If you're going to change jobs 13 times in your career, which the younger you are, the more likely that's going to happen, then you should…”
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“One side is taking the money out of healthcare and putting it into tax cuts for the rich.”
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“Trump is actively getting rid of [SNAP]. His budget is cutting Snap.”
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“People's access to the benefits that they've already [earned]...happens with food stamps. That happens with Medicaid.”
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“The people who are cutting Medicaid right now say that they're not cutting Medicaid.”
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“This happened in Arkansas. They did this exact move...a bunch of people who are supposed to [receive Medicaid] aren't getting their care.”
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“There are unspeakable horrors taking place in Gaza.”
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“A war that started with unspeakable horrors being perpetrated by Hamas on October 7th.”
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“There is in fact an explosion of antisemitism going on in this country.”
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“Here at Harvard, it's easily one of America's most anti Semitic, hateful universities.”
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“It's not like every dollar that comes out of foreign aid...is going to somehow automatically wind up in your pocket.”
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“Most of the time it's not. It's winding up in the pocket of the wealthiest Americans who are getting tax cuts under this administration.”
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“The reason it's unaffordable here at home is not because we're helping certain causes abroad.”
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“Some of these expressions of antisemitism happen on the morning of October 8th, like before Israel even responded to October 7th.”
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“Everything that Netanyahu government does right now...is incinerating a really important part of the moral fiber of what connects America to…”
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“The settler expansion into the west bank...designed to make it impossible for there to be a functional Palestinian state.”
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“Netanyahu's government is doing everything that it can to make it impossible [for a two-state solution].”
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“It's about spiking the two state solution, which also means defying what has generally been America's position.”
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“American leadership can make a difference. But I think the leadership there [in Israel] is what will make the most difference.”
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“This gridlock is being kept in place largely by Netanyahu because it's his ticket to stay in power.”
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“There needs to be American leaders that can do two things at once that can be committed to the security of people in Israel and unwilling to…”
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“You were farming out our wars to lower income people.”
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“This largely started in the post Vietnam era because in Vietnam, everybody... got drafted.”
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“The goodwill gets squandered in the Bush years by invading Iraq, which has nothing to do with 911.”
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“US policy played a role, no question [in making people mad enough to commit acts like 9/11].”
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“Trump speaks to that actually, by the way, that's all bullshit. Like he was for the Iraq war and then later on pretended to be against it.”
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“I think Another lesson of 911 is whatever's going on in the world will come find us one way or the other.”
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“There was an enormous amount of corruption [in Afghanistan].”
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“Like police commanders would just be paid in cash. But also they personally would be expected out of their personal pockets to pay the…”
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“In Afghanistan now, like they don't think women should go to school. They're not gonna let women have jobs.”
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“By the time I was there, it was getting a little harder to figure out what the strategic objective actually was [in Afghanistan].”
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“The last time we had actual comprehensive immigration reform in this country was 1986.”
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“The whole American economy almost designed to need more labor than we're able to supply.”
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“They've driven violent crime down in Baltimore.”
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“Tens of thousands of people die every year in the country in crashes. We reduced that.”
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“Trump tried and he couldn't get it done. We got it done.”
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“We enforced the rules that were already there. We had record enforcement actions against airlines.”
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“We made sure there was accountability for [the Southwest meltdown], like more than $100 million.”
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“We put in rules and tools, things like flightrights.gov.”
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“Trump just killed [the process to get compensation for your time if it's the airline's fault].”
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“They're letting credit cards charge these junk fees that there was a rule that you could do that.”
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“This administration killed the direct file that would allow you to just do it yourself and not have to go through one of these companies.”
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“My replacement at the Department of Transportation was literally an airline lobbyist.”
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“There was a derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, where we had folks on the ground very quickly.”
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“There were no fatalities, it was just an incredibly serious incident.”
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“It was hard enough for the government to get them good information, and then you had this flood of bad information coming in online.”
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“People weren't applying for money that they should and could get because they had been told that it wasn't going to happen.”
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“Projects are incredibly expensive. Like in New York, we're trying to do the second Avenue subway. Billions of dollars, and the tunnel's…”
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“The federal government is not set up to make sure projects go quickly. It's set up to make sure they don't go wrong.”
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“It's affecting how we build housing. It's affecting how we build clean energy infrastructure.”
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“Same thing with the so-called self-driving cars that weren't really self-driving.”
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“We did things like bike lanes and just more sidewalks and people were like, no one's ever going to use the bike lane. But like it mattered…”
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“Northwest Indiana is one of the most underrated or undervalued coasts in America.”
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“Malta...is independent English speaking, but also Maltese speaking, which is a Semitic language.”
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“Now it's happening.”
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“You should be stifled.”
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