They kicked us up to enforcement and told all kinds of other regulatory agencies that we'd destroyed wetlands and polluted water and all kinds of other nonsense. They'd never give us a hearing. So the Pacific Legal foundation, which is a public interest law firm that I call them the American Civil Liberties Union for productive people, they oftentimes represent farmers and builders and property owners, and they represented us on a. (21:45–21:48)
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Asserts that they were never granted a hearing.
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