I one thing I would say, and I put myself maybe as a contrarian on this issue, is there has been this sort of meme, I think, that, that the administration is ignoring the courts and the courts don't matter. That's not true. The court orders are being largely enforced. I'm not saying uniformly and always and forever, but actually in large measure what judges are saying is getting effectuated. And it's really important that Democrats don't stop believing that that's the case. (1:03:39–1:03:42)
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