And it's always been contested, as you said in your conversation before, the questions are not as settled as we thought. And the current instance of the question has been defined, I think, by J.D. Vance described his family's cemetery plot in eastern Kentucky. And then he declared, people will not fight for an idea, but they will fight for their homeland. And this is the MAGA campaign. This is it. This is the crystallization of it. Because what they are saying is that we are the real Americans. (38:04–38:24)
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