I mean, 40 years, going back to before we were both into politics, before she ran for district attorney, before I ran for county supervisor, let alone mayor. So it's, It's difficult because there's so many aspects. And I want to get to how difficult it is because, you know, Nancy Pelosi's relationship with Kamala, and obviously that plays a big role in this book as well. (21:00–21:03)
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