Gavin Newsom: “I could just lay claim to that in terms of personal…”

“They were so deeply loyal. It could be both and. And appears perhaps both and. But there was never a sense that she was trying out her mind. And I could just lay claim to that in terms of personal interactions and everybody around her, of which, you know, I have one degree of separation. We'll get to some of those characters in a moment. So she gets. She presses the president, and the president agrees that later in the day, at least one of his visors, as you paint in the book, decides, we'll.” (30:28–30:36)

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