And I mean, obviously that's a big part, I think, of the through line in the book. But the point of you're making about Nancy Pelosi playing an outsized role here is interesting. And just reflecting on my own conversations with former Speaker Pelosi is how. How sensitive she was to the parents, that she was pushing him out, and how she went to great lengths. And in the book, you. You chronicle that. But even in the personal interactions with many of us, she would even unsolicited say, just so you know, I'm not pushing. (12:33–12:48)
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Asserts that [Nancy Pelosi] was sensitive to perceptions that she was pushing [Joe Biden] out.
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