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In-Studio Discussion with Ezra Klein and Gavin Newsom on 'Abundance' and Democratic Governance

Published March 26, 2025 | Video Starts at 1:12:15

Frame and the party and the thinkers in it are going to have to be alert to this side of it, too, because it is a mistake to think of politics as a separate sphere from technology. If we could do more modular housing, it would change what is possible in housing policy. These things are bidirectional. They're intertwined. And I would like to see a liberalism that isn't just angry about a bunch of things. (1:12:15–1:12:19)

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