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Vivek Ramaswamy: “In politics, it absolutely does not pay to be early.”

Featuring: Vivek Ramaswamy, Libertarian, Conservative | Former Candidate, President of the United States | National

Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65

Published July 23, 2025 | Video Starts at 15:04

Right. I mean, the idea of joining TikTok or some of the things I was talking about back then were beyond the pale that are now totally accepted. Common wisdom In politics, it absolutely does not pay to be early. And I'm not going to be able to. That's kind of who I am. And I'm never going to be able to. To be a different. (15:04–15:10)

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Vivek Ramaswamy

“An average student in the United States is five years behind Singapore, four years behind the average student in China.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 15:35-15:41
“20 kids a year are born with this rare congenital disease where 100% of them died by the age of three if untreated.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 49:11-49:20
“The therapy that we got through FDA approval, 70% of those kids now are able to live lives of normal.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 49:20-49:25
“One [company] is a biotech company that developed five medicines that are approved today.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 03:53-47:13
“One [medicine] is a life-saving therapy in kids.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 03:53-49:20
“I'm running to lead [the country], and I was serious about the pursuit of bringing the country together.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 08:16-08:30
“Implementing an economic vision that would create a new American dream.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 08:25-08:30
“Revive our sense of national identity in a way that went far beyond our standard racial or partisan boundaries.”
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“The number one thing that I did that you were not supposed to do as a Republican candidate for any office was to commit the cardinal sin of…”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 10:39-10:48
“It was totally the normal thing that you were actually missing the boat if you weren't a Republican candidate on all the social media…”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 11:13-11:21
“Think about younger people who came along in droves in the end for, for President Trump in the 2024 election.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 11:26-11:33
“They're not watching MSNBC, they're not watching Fox News, they don't have cable.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 11:34-11:39
“In business, if you're right, it absolutely rewards you and pays more to be early.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 12:25-12:31
“I think I would have been a better candidate and leader of the country in the scenario of my last run for US President had I done that…”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 24:10-24:19
“Not just in the campaign, but even in leading this state as governor.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 24:33-24:37
“I've actually been able to do and accomplish more in these last couple of years by at times slowing up the pace.”
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“We are expecting a third [child].”
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“I've built several companies, four companies.”
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“I started that company really only a little over 10 years ago.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 47:21-47:25
“Another one's a drug for prostate cancer...it's for the exact kind of prostate cancer that [President Biden] has.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 49:38-49:42
“Another for endometriosis and uterine fibroids, which are women's health conditions that had traditionally been ignored by much of the…”
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“We were able. That wouldn't exist in the world but for the company that I founded.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 50:13-50:18
“The first company was called Royvin.”
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“Next company I started was a company called Chapter that pairs elder Americans with Medicare plans that they don't know actually exist.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 50:45-50:55
“I think it starts with the education system. I think that our education system, it's a huge necessity in Ohio and in the country.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 54:55-55:03
“We have an education system that slowly has devolved into deprioritizing the actual success and achievement of our students.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 55:04-55:12
“Public policy can and definitely ought to affect the way our education system functions.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 57:16-57:21
“Education policy is set at the level of the states.”
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“Our public schools are run today without any performance management system.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 59:07-59:12
“The average student in China is four years ahead and in Singapore is five years ahead of an average student in the United States.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:00:57-1:01:03
“The education system, the time horizon we're talking about is a decade or decade and a half.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:02:39-1:02:43
“There's one school in Ohio that adopted merit-based pay, performance-based outcomes for teachers.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:02:48-1:02:57
“Not a single one of our 50 states [prioritizes performance and rewards success in education] today.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:03:53-1:03:53
“We're going to bring down property taxes and we're going to eliminate eventually to zero the income tax in Ohio.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:04:24-1:04:31
“If we become a zero capital gains tax state, capital owners from across the country are going to choose Ohio as a place to own those assets.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:05:04-1:05:12
“We have more people moving out of our state right now than moving in.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:05:27-1:05:31
“The people who are moving out are the ones who actually tend to be our younger, educated citizens.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:05:31-1:05:36
“I want Ohio to be a home in a hub for small modular nuclear reactors.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:11:17-1:11:22
“A lot of those regulations at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission at the federal level today are actually unconstitutional because Congress…”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:11:33-1:11:40
“Republicans control all three branches of the federal government in my home state, all three branches of the state government.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:16:59-1:17:05
“We ought to focus on our vision of the future and where we're headed.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:17:49-1:17:55
“I'm focused on education. I'm focused on economic empowerment in Ohio, reversing our population decline.”
Who is Vivek Ramaswamy? | The Sage Steele Show | EP 65 | Uploaded July 23, 2025 | 1:21:11-1:21:17
“Most of the businesses that I've built are already at a stage where they're operating on their own feet.”
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