In many ways, people are leaving those states. You take a look at a state like California for the first time in 2020 in the history of their state, they lost population. Minnesota and Illinois, similar things are happening [regarding population loss]. So are we going to go that route like Minnesota and il, a couple of the states here in the Midwest? Are we going to be one of the dynamic states of America? (20:28–20:33)
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