And so this idea that if we just point them to it and say, look at what they've done, wag our fingers, they're going to suddenly change their minds, is not true. The MAGA movement believes what they believe. And the way I like to talk about it is that as someone who is pro choice, someone who is pro democracy, someone who believes in civil and human rights, … (54:26–54:29)
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Asserts that the MAGA movement holds firm beliefs.
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