Fine, but it's the way they wanted to do it. We know we have a serious problem at our university. We have universities, they have researchers, first of all, Graduate students [at universities] are stealing this information [research] and sharing it with China. American researchers who are openly sharing it with China. They're either selling it to them through secret deals or the universities have financial interests in their partnership with China. (21:40–21:43)
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Claims that graduate students are stealing research information and sharing it with China.
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