Obviously, we have significant pockets of xenophobia, but overall quite welcoming of immigrants. But what happened was the American public got very rattled by the open borders of 2021. And there's been significant backlash that Donald Trump has demagogued off of and taken advantage of [the immigration issue]. But he is now, he is now dangerously close politically to doing, to going way overboard. American public does not like massed ICE raids. They do not like the performative cruelty that they are seeing. (48:20–48:26)
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