Derrick Van Orden: “You said you need 387 additional counselors on top of what's…”

“Sure was anticipated. Yeah. Okay, so then we're just failing somewhere along those. I want to talk to you for a second. You said you need 387 additional counselors on top of what's in the president's budget? Yes, sir. That would be to get us to the 1 to 125 ratio. Okay, so you're saying you need roughly 800 counselors, is that right? We currently have 1056 performing this work.” (07:01–07:07)

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