Derrick Van Orden: “So you need, you need 1400 or 1500 total.”

“That would be to get us to the 1 to 125 ratio. Okay, so you're saying you need roughly 800 counselors, is that right? We currently have 1056 performing this work. So you need, you need 1400 or 1500 total. Okay. How many vets have been in this program for longer than 48 months? I don't have that number off the top of my head, sir. Right here. So it's big.” (07:19–07:24)

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