Derrick Van Orden: “That's $4,000 and bah. And you know, having been in the…”

“They would get the rate? Yes, sir. They would get the rate based on the facility they are attending in person. Okay, see, this is an issue because That's $4,000 and bah. And you know, having been in the military for a long time is based on where you live or your duty station. So this is something that Chris and I have to work on because that's just, that's fraudulent in my opinion.” (10:08–10:18)

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