And I think right now in Europe. My second answer. There are two schools of thought. You have one school of thought and leaders perhaps like myself, who believe that We need to de-escalate, we need to find an off-ramp, we need to explain, we need to have a process. And at the end of the process, we get something. Say in the NATO summit in Ankara next summer, we are the ones who believe that this is essentially an issue of security rather than sovereignty. (06:30–06:42)
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Asserts the need for de-escalation and a structured process to resolve the crisis.
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