And if I look at it from a Russian perspective, and if the Russians were honest to themselves, none of their strategic goals have succeeded. What did Putin want? He wanted to take over Ukraine. He made Ukraine European. He wanted to split NATO. He actually got two additional members, Sweden and Finland. He wanted to split the transatlantic partnership. While someone might say there are cracks in it, but I still believe in the long run hasn't happened. He wanted to split Europe. (25:22–25:30)
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Asserts Putin's actions led to Sweden and Finland joining NATO.
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