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Tommy Thompson: “D.A. Henderson was the leader in being able to stamp out…”

Featuring: Tommy Thompson, Conservative | Former Candidate, U.S. Senate Wisconsin

Ep26 - HHS Then & Now with Tommy Thompson

Published July 30, 2025 | Video Starts at 24:07

So how do we get back to making sure these public health decisions and appointing people are based on the science and not the politics? It's hard. And D.A. Henderson was the leader in being able to stamp out smallpox. and he did not want to come in. He was retired, if you remember correctly. And I. I called him and I leaned on him, and he said, oh, I don't want to come back in the government. (24:07–49:17)

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Asserts that D.A. Henderson played a leading role in eradicating smallpox.

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“Medicare is going broke in what, 10 years.”
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“93% of the money on healthcare goes to get you well after you get sick, and less than 7% keep you well in the first place.”
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“We were there before anybody else with the federal government, [Howard Zucker and Tommy Thompson], the team to help out whenever we could.”
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“We said, there's going to be mental health problems. And we turn that to our assistant, Charlie, and says, you gotta set up a conference.”
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“It was set up for November 19 that year, about two months later. National Conference on Mental Health to help out New York and the citizens…”
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“Medicare's got problems, Medicaid's got problems, and we have to fix it.”
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“We completely redid Medicare and we had Part D, which was a tremendous success.”
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“Badger Care was an idea that I came up with and that was probably, I think probably the best health care for low income people in the…”
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“Badger Care...is still in existence, and it's still working.”
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“Now [the Global Fund] is an $8 billion operation.”
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“We don't have enough doctors, don't have enough nurses. We certainly don't have enough technicians.”
Ep26 - HHS Then & Now with Tommy Thompson | Uploaded July 30, 2025 | 14:39-14:44
“You have to wait sometimes six months, nine months to see a specialist.”
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“Public health at the state level was just being starved.”
Ep26 - HHS Then & Now with Tommy Thompson | Uploaded July 30, 2025 | 20:47-20:52
“After anthrax, the federal government and the president said, do whatever you need.”
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“We have to rebuild the state's public health system.”
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“For many years thereafter, they were putting money into public health.”
Ep26 - HHS Then & Now with Tommy Thompson | Uploaded July 30, 2025 | 22:29-22:33
“They're taking away money from public health.”
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“The states have got to be the first line of protection for our public health system.”
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“The public health system has already got big gaps in it.”
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“I built a command center. And at 9:30 every morning during COVID I had every campus report into me.”
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“The thing that I'm the most concerned about is food safety.”
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“I still am absolutely worried about the sanctity and the safety of food that we're importing from all over the world.”
Ep26 - HHS Then & Now with Tommy Thompson | Uploaded July 30, 2025 | 28:05-28:13
“I don't see anybody really looking at how do you protect the importation of food.”
Ep26 - HHS Then & Now with Tommy Thompson | Uploaded July 30, 2025 | 29:02-29:06
“I'm sure that there is need for some reductions. No, I'll never accept the statement that we can't cut anything.”
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“Healthcare is not stagnant. Healthcare changes. We have different viruses, we have different bacterias.”
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“The federal government needs to be able to inculcate the professors and researchers from the university.”
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“Universities are too insular, Howard, and they've got to be much more cooperative with government units.”
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“Global health was something that I really loved because I thought America could really show its leadership.”
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“We did that through our Global Health Fund and through the Millennium Fund.”
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“Women had to come in and bring their own sutures when they go to operate.”
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“Doctors could not deliver maternal care to other women.”
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“We came back home, we raised the money, we remodeled the hospital.”
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“USAID would. Funded some crazy stuff and they shouldn't fund it.”
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“America has to be part of [the World Health Organization].”
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“You got to get into the K12, you got to get into the classroom. That's where the childhood obesity has got to be.”
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