No. And is it against the interests of workers to have better access to paid leave and pensions, two more benefits that again my Unionized workplaces are much more likely to offer [better access to paid leave and pensions]. Yeah, I would say no. I mean the idea of those benefits being available. Why wouldn't you rely on voluntarism? Why do you need compulsion? (01:24–01:38)
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