And that's why I want to really get into the detail, this is, you know, how structural, how certain are these reforms? That's a trade off. I'm willing to take a look at and willing to consider because that really is The long term driver of debt and deficit is the mandatory spending programs. You know, we've got to reform those things because they're simply insolvent right now. They're unsustainable. (27:57–28:02)
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