You said on television. And I said, so the joke's on both of us, right? That did happen, but not the way they said it would. We need to be just as ferocious in guarding personal liberty and insisting on a state that is both more and less powerful. More powerful when it comes to things like confronting inequality and protecting the vulnerable. Less powerful when it comes to things like surveillance and intimidation and all of the things that they're using this big new budget of theirs to do. (23:34–23:43)
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Asserts the need for a state that is more powerful in confronting inequality and less powerful in surveillance and intimidation.
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