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Mike Rogers: “If it was a human being that helped us get that information…”

Featuring: Mike Rogers, Conservative | Former Candidate, U.S. Senate Michigan

A Conversation with Mike Rogers

Published June 6, 2023 | Video Starts at 15:45

Is it a person? Was it an electronic intercept? Was it data intercept? I want to know how they got that information. They'll spend a lot of time and effort, and If it was a human being that helped us get that information, you can imagine that somebody's life is in danger. right? Exactly. What do you think will happen to him? I know this is like a prediction, but what do you think, based on your experience, will happen to this young man? (15:45–15:51)

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Asserts that human sources of intelligence could be endangered by leaks.

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“This is interesting because it's the second time that the military has had somebody in their IT department [leak sensitive information].”
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“Remember the Chelsea Manning case a few years ago, same kind of role where she was taking information that was flying by.”
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“He was a specialist in the army, I believe, at the time.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:47-12:51
“He didn't really understand the information, didn't, it wasn't designed for him to read it or analyze it or he wasn't trained on how to…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:51-12:59
“Reached into that IT, and pulled it out and then caused it to be disclosed.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:59-13:05
“Same here. This is a really interesting case, same kind of a thing.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:04-13:09
“He saw information flying by. He was an IT guy, and he reached in and in his mind, in his world, not trained, doesn't understand analytics…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:08-13:25
“There was some protocols broken there that allowed them to get those hard copies to be able to take a picture.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:24-13:32
“It's the same kind of motivation. I see something, I don't really understand it, but I want to show my friends I'm really important.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:31-13:39
“It leads down this path until we get a really serious breach of national security.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:38-13:45
“Somebody in their chain of command also should get in trouble for doing something that would be a little bit around the protocols.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 14:21-14:28
“They're going to have to apply [protections in the civilian intelligence side for downloading, copying] throughout the whole entire DOD…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 14:42-14:47
“I'm still a little concerned why it was up in a national guard unit in Massachusetts was seeing things that had to do with a source of…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 14:49-14:59
“If you disclose one little piece of this, counterintelligence agencies in Russia, in Iran and China will kind of re-engineer it.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 15:24-15:34
“I'm going to guess he's going to get charged with illegal removal of documents, being in possession of documents he didn't have authority to…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 16:05-16:15
“He'll probably do get charged and everything packaged up probably around that ten to 15 year mark.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 16:15-16:22
“The South Koreans were obviously very, very upset. The Egyptians were upset, Israelis were upset.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 17:07-17:15
“This is a cleanup on aisle nine. We are going to have to reach out and work with these allies to try to regain their trust.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 17:49-17:59
“It happened in the Chelsea Manning, WikiLeaks, Edward Snowden. Those leaks really hurt us with our allies.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 18:01-18:09
“He stole millions and millions of pages of equivalent of really sensitive information, downloaded it, and now is living in Moscow in the…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 19:04-19:17
“Certain things that were taken gave clues on how we would react to certain kind of activities.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 19:33-19:40
“That was part of the Edward Snowden materials that were stolen.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 20:13-20:18
“Germany is a NATO country. It's an article five country.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 20:21-20:25
“If they trigger article five under the NATO ruling, that means we would be going to war with them.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 20:51-20:59
“Obama at the time he cut it off. He said, we're not doing anything like this anymore, even though that they had previously authorized all of…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 21:24-21:33
“When the president of the United States travels, including Obama at that time, they have to take this big set of equipment, even in a hotel…”
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“The Russians helped [Snowden] get it out there, candidly.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 22:26-22:30
“China is moving out and saying that they're going to push the US off the international stage.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:09-23:15
“China is moving out. They're trying to take our global currency reserve status away, which will impact all of our standard of living.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:09-35:27
“China is teaching their 8th graders quantum mechanics.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:41-23:45
“Last year, two thirds of 8th graders in the United States couldn't read at grade level, the 8th grade level.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:45-23:53
“Almost three quarters of [8th graders in the United States] couldn't do, perform math proficiently at the 8th grade level.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:53-24:00
“We're coming back to New Hampshire again next week for a few days, and then we're going back in the first week of May.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 26:11-26:20
“If you want to get to a carbon neutral, carbon free economy, you have to be energy independent.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 27:28-27:38
“The current administration just turned down two of those mines, and guess what happens? It goes to China to be processed.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 28:06-28:14
“So 90% of what goes into an electric car is now processed in China.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 28:13-28:19
“In 2021, 10% of teenage girls attempted suicide.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 29:44-29:51
“30% [of teenage girls] thought about [suicide in 2021].”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 29:54-29:57
“Marijuana psychosis events are on the rise in the United States.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 31:00-31:05
“Medicare is going to go into cash deficit in 2028.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 34:02-34:06
“The interest payment on the debt which we borrow is going to be larger than the Defense Department here pretty soon.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 34:36-34:44
“Their navy is now bigger than the US Navy.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 35:27-35:31
“They're the third largest and probably most modern nuclear fleet or nuclear arsenal country in the world.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 35:30-35:37
“If you're not reading at the fourth grade, by the fourth grade, there's a 70% chance that you will be either on welfare or in prison.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 36:06-36:15
“Last year we graduated about half, a little over half high school seniors couldn't read at the 6th grade level.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 36:33-36:41
“We found some kids, by the way, you got me on my soapbox. Sorry, but that. We found some kids. They did these assessments that were in high…”
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“This is a disability of which we can cure. We can solve it.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 38:15-38:20
“Get our reading together, get our STEM students ready and prepared to compete against Chinese scientists and technologists.”
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“We need to get these young kids back oriented to the notion that America is bigger than all of us, and you have a responsibility to help us…”
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“When I was a young kid, I was infatuated with Ronald Reagan, and I'll tell you why. It's because at a time when the country was also pulling…”
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“It's not an easy decision. We're getting there, and as I said, we're still getting invited back, so we're still coming.”
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