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Mike Rogers: “He stole millions and millions of pages of equivalent of…”

Featuring: Mike Rogers, Conservative | Former Candidate, U.S. Senate Michigan

A Conversation with Mike Rogers

Published June 6, 2023 | Video Starts at 19:04

And what people don't realize is the things that he said he was upset about was about 2% of all the material he stole. He stole millions and millions of pages of equivalent of really sensitive information, downloaded it, and now is living in Moscow in the custody of the FSB. You know, it's really damaging stuff, right? I mean, the argument was. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, I was just going to say I'm with you. (19:04–19:17)

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Asserts that Edward Snowden stole millions of pages of sensitive information and is now in Moscow under FSB custody.

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“This is interesting because it's the second time that the military has had somebody in their IT department [leak sensitive information].”
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“Remember the Chelsea Manning case a few years ago, same kind of role where she was taking information that was flying by.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:35-12:47
“He was a specialist in the army, I believe, at the time.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:47-12:51
“He didn't really understand the information, didn't, it wasn't designed for him to read it or analyze it or he wasn't trained on how to…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:51-12:59
“Reached into that IT, and pulled it out and then caused it to be disclosed.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 12:59-13:05
“Same here. This is a really interesting case, same kind of a thing.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:04-13:09
“He saw information flying by. He was an IT guy, and he reached in and in his mind, in his world, not trained, doesn't understand analytics…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:08-13:25
“There was some protocols broken there that allowed them to get those hard copies to be able to take a picture.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:24-13:32
“It's the same kind of motivation. I see something, I don't really understand it, but I want to show my friends I'm really important.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:31-13:39
“It leads down this path until we get a really serious breach of national security.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 13:38-13:45
“Somebody in their chain of command also should get in trouble for doing something that would be a little bit around the protocols.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 14:21-14:28
“They're going to have to apply [protections in the civilian intelligence side for downloading, copying] throughout the whole entire DOD…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 14:42-14:47
“I'm still a little concerned why it was up in a national guard unit in Massachusetts was seeing things that had to do with a source of…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 14:49-14:59
“If you disclose one little piece of this, counterintelligence agencies in Russia, in Iran and China will kind of re-engineer it.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 15:24-15:34
“If it was a human being that helped us get that information, you can imagine that somebody's life is in danger.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 15:45-15:51
“I'm going to guess he's going to get charged with illegal removal of documents, being in possession of documents he didn't have authority to…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 16:05-16:15
“He'll probably do get charged and everything packaged up probably around that ten to 15 year mark.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 16:15-16:22
“The South Koreans were obviously very, very upset. The Egyptians were upset, Israelis were upset.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 17:07-17:15
“This is a cleanup on aisle nine. We are going to have to reach out and work with these allies to try to regain their trust.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 17:49-17:59
“It happened in the Chelsea Manning, WikiLeaks, Edward Snowden. Those leaks really hurt us with our allies.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 18:01-18:09
“Certain things that were taken gave clues on how we would react to certain kind of activities.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 19:33-19:40
“That was part of the Edward Snowden materials that were stolen.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 20:13-20:18
“Germany is a NATO country. It's an article five country.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 20:21-20:25
“If they trigger article five under the NATO ruling, that means we would be going to war with them.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 20:51-20:59
“Obama at the time he cut it off. He said, we're not doing anything like this anymore, even though that they had previously authorized all of…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 21:24-21:33
“When the president of the United States travels, including Obama at that time, they have to take this big set of equipment, even in a hotel…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 21:36-21:48
“The Russians helped [Snowden] get it out there, candidly.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 22:26-22:30
“China is moving out and saying that they're going to push the US off the international stage.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:09-23:15
“China is moving out. They're trying to take our global currency reserve status away, which will impact all of our standard of living.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:09-35:27
“China is teaching their 8th graders quantum mechanics.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:41-23:45
“Last year, two thirds of 8th graders in the United States couldn't read at grade level, the 8th grade level.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:45-23:53
“Almost three quarters of [8th graders in the United States] couldn't do, perform math proficiently at the 8th grade level.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 23:53-24:00
“We're coming back to New Hampshire again next week for a few days, and then we're going back in the first week of May.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 26:11-26:20
“If you want to get to a carbon neutral, carbon free economy, you have to be energy independent.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 27:28-27:38
“The current administration just turned down two of those mines, and guess what happens? It goes to China to be processed.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 28:06-28:14
“So 90% of what goes into an electric car is now processed in China.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 28:13-28:19
“In 2021, 10% of teenage girls attempted suicide.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 29:44-29:51
“30% [of teenage girls] thought about [suicide in 2021].”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 29:54-29:57
“Marijuana psychosis events are on the rise in the United States.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 31:00-31:05
“Medicare is going to go into cash deficit in 2028.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 34:02-34:06
“The interest payment on the debt which we borrow is going to be larger than the Defense Department here pretty soon.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 34:36-34:44
“Their navy is now bigger than the US Navy.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 35:27-35:31
“They're the third largest and probably most modern nuclear fleet or nuclear arsenal country in the world.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 35:30-35:37
“If you're not reading at the fourth grade, by the fourth grade, there's a 70% chance that you will be either on welfare or in prison.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 36:06-36:15
“Last year we graduated about half, a little over half high school seniors couldn't read at the 6th grade level.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 36:33-36:41
“We found some kids, by the way, you got me on my soapbox. Sorry, but that. We found some kids. They did these assessments that were in high…”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 37:49-38:01
“This is a disability of which we can cure. We can solve it.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 38:15-38:20
“Get our reading together, get our STEM students ready and prepared to compete against Chinese scientists and technologists.”
A Conversation with Mike Rogers | Uploaded June 6, 2023 | 38:42-38:50
“We need to get these young kids back oriented to the notion that America is bigger than all of us, and you have a responsibility to help us…”
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“When I was a young kid, I was infatuated with Ronald Reagan, and I'll tell you why. It's because at a time when the country was also pulling…”
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“It's not an easy decision. We're getting there, and as I said, we're still getting invited back, so we're still coming.”
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