But more generally you still see very slowly that the movement is in the wrong direction. If you are pro Ukraine like I am an anti Russian. When it comes to the second question, I still think We need a settlement for this, a peace deal. And this is what President Trump is driving. He broke the debt load with Putin last year by getting engaged with him. (28:51–28:55)
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Asserts the need for a peace settlement in the conflict involving Ukraine.
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