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Mark Rutte: “There is a joint center in Poland, JTEC, where lessons from…”

Featuring: Mark Rutte, People's Party for Freedom and Democracy | Secretary General of NATO | International

Live: As Trump considers NATO withdrawal, Mark Rutte delivers speech in Washington DC

Published April 9, 2026 | Video Starts at 41:49

… think it will be, I will be able or we will be able collectively to solve that NATO membership ship in the short term, I don't think it will happen … There is a joint center in Poland, JTEC, where lessons from the war in Ukraine are being learned. … we are trying to capture all those lessons also to figure them into our NATO defense plans going forward and particularly when it comes to drones and anti drone technology. (41:49–42:03)

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Asserts the existence of a joint center in Poland for learning lessons from the Ukraine war.

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“The president drove allies toward a historic decision at NATO summit in the Hague last summer to invest 5% of GDP into defence.”
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“A Dutch F35 fired the shot that took down [a Russian drone] in Poland.”
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“Europeans are spending in the U.S. it was 10 billion in 2020. It was already 43 billion in 2024.”
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“Russia is losing massive amounts of people each month, up to a month with 30,000 to 35,000 people dead or seriously wounded.”
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“Western European forces shrank and defence budgets shriveled into irrelevance over reliance on the notion that security was just the new…”
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“President Trump's commitment to progress reversed more than a generation of stagnation and atrophy by reminding Europe that values must be…”
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“Allies are moving quickly to secure the budgets, grow their armed forces and field the capabilities we know we need.”
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“Europe is assuming a greater and fairer share of the task of providing for its conventional defense.”
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“Allies are providing a massive amount of support, basing logistics and other measures to ensure the powerful US Military succeeds in denying…”
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“European allies play leading roles in NATO's operations to secure our eastern flank, the Baltic Sea and the Arctic.”
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“It was European aircraft Italians in the lead, backed up by Finns and Swedes that turned [Russian MiG31s] back.”
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“NATO is changing thanks to American leadership and a collective commitment to ensuring continued freedom and security.”
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“The overwhelming majority of Europeans have done what the US asked of [them] and what was previously agreed.”
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“NATO is there, of course, to protect the Europeans, but also to protect the United States.”
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“These huge nuclear submarines from Russia are not there to attack Norway. They are there to attack the United States.”
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“NATO was founded because the United States didn't want to repeat a mistake after the Second World War of isolationism.”
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“It has always been a long standing position of NATO that Iran should not get its hands on a nuclear capability, but also not on a ballistic…”
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“Under US leadership those capabilities [Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities] have been severely degraded.”
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“The Netherlands, announcing yesterday, it will probably be about minehunters, it will be frigates, it will be about the radar technology.”
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“This is not only NATO nations. This is Including Japan, Korea, Australia being part of this. Countries like Bahrain and the UAE in the Gulf…”
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“Over time the US wants more and more to pivot towards the Indo Pacific.”
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“Countries like Belgium, Spain, Italy, and Canada, big economies, were not in 2% [defense spending] to all reached the 2% in one go.”
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“Without President Trump, I'm not sure they would have done that in only nine to 12 months.”
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“For Italy, it is an increase of defense spending of 10 billion in one year.”
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“The whole of the alliance having committed to the 5% at the summit in the Hague.”
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“In the European system, you have an election cycle of three or four years.”
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“In the U.S. system, you have a one-year cycle.”
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“The Ukrainians are staunchly defending themselves and they are using the latest technology, the drone technology.”
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“We need a settlement for this, a peace deal.”
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“The coalition of the willing, including the key interlocutor with the United States.”
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“We agreed on a three-layer pose. Layer one is the Ukrainian armed forces. They have to be the strongest possible with great huge investments…”
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“The third layer being the United States providing the backstop to that coalition.”
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“In all the country of the eastern flank we have now what we in NATO parliament are called the forward land forces.”
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“These are multi-country forces defending, helping to defend for example Latvia where it is Canada taking the lead, Estonia where the UK is…”
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“Lithuania where my country, the Netherlands is active under leadership of Germany.”
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“We have an amazing senior commander, a four-star general who is constantly with his team assessing what is the best way to make use of all…”
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“North Korea, China, Iran, Belarus, and Russia are working together when it comes to this war of aggression against Ukraine.”
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“Iran and Russia are cooperating in drone technology and other military technology.”
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“Iran is the main exporter of chaos in the Middle East through their proxies and directly.”
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“Iran is trying to build ballistic missile capability and nuclear capability.”
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“There was an agreement on the irreversible path of Ukraine into NATO at the NATO summit in Washington.”
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“A couple of countries, including Germany, Slovakia, Hungary, and the United States, are holding back on Ukraine's NATO membership.”
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“We are trying to capture all those lessons also to figure them into our NATO defense plans going forward and particularly when it comes to…”
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“Now that all of alliance has reached this 2% threshold, so the foundation is now laid.”
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“Most likely if China would move against Taiwan, why not first call your junior partner in all of this which is Ron Vladimir.”
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“We cannot look at these two theaters separately. They are all interconnected.”
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“Most of them did [live up to commitments]. Not all of them, but most of them.”
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“We cannot accept the strait to be closed. And it has to be opening up.”
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“The Arctic is at the moment eight countries. Seven are part of NATO, one Russia not.”
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“We started Arctic Sentry, which is bringing together five of the NATO countries in the Arctic.”
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