Well, let's, let's start with sometimes the wrong value proposition, the wrong view on this, I feel. I mean, I'm an audience of one, but let's, let's have that debate is that NATO was founded because the United States didn't want to repeat a mistake after the Second World War of isolationism. which was the case after the First World War, at a famous speech by Churchill late December in the US Congress, where it said again, for the second time in … (13:27–13:33)
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Asserts that NATO was founded to avoid US isolationism post-World War II.
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