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Mark Pocan: “A law enforcement officer for the United States…”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank

Published May 13, 2026 | Video Starts at 07:31

The actual principal legal advisor. Wow. And you also observed ICE leadership cut roughly 240 hours, or about 40% of the training, including key … A law enforcement officer for the United States government... isn't being told what [their constitutional duties] means. … One, the agency changed its focus and started doing all these field operations like we saw in Minneapolis, Chicago, Louisiana. (07:31)

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Asserts that law enforcement officers are not being informed about the meaning of their constitutional duties.

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“Its [ICE's] abuse by the Trump administration has been widely covered, as has its practices that have killed several American citizens.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 02:45-02:53
“ICE leadership cut roughly 240 hours, or about 40% of the training, including key instruction on constitutional rights, use of force, and…”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 07:20-07:32
“There may be no agency less revered under the Trump administration than ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.”
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“You were specifically ordered to instruct cadets to violate the Constitution, specifically by entering homes without a judicial warrant, Is…”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 05:27-05:38
“A specific class in the curriculum where we talk about the oath and constitutional duties was cut from the program.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 05:27-05:38
“And you were also told not to tell them to not to document or discuss the secret policy memo authorizing these practices, Right?”
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“They were going to put more ICE agents out into the field doing what you said. Like, they haven't really. They weren't really originally…”
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“ICE's purpose has been to supposedly round up criminals, which I assume we also know isn't true anymore.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 09:37-09:46
“And then you testified to Congress saying that you were, you're, quote, I think, duty bound to report what you saw.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 12:49-12:55
“We get calls from constituents who've been caught into all this, who were not criminals, and we're not the worst of the worst.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 22:50-22:57
“I visited a few of the facilities in Texas, specifically one of the children's facilities when they were being detained under Trump…”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 26:00-26:11
“Much of this has been, I think, to kind of shift the excuse of what happened, rather than the fact that these are orders from the very top.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 27:57-28:07
“We also don't have a functioning Department of Justice.”
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“Department of Homeland Security, we just funded everything but essentially [ICE].”
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“They already have the funding for the big beautiful bill.”
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“Most [cadets] weren't even aware that they had taken [the oath].”
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“Some of us just... honestly question whether it's even possible under this administration.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 32:05-32:10
“I think we've lost public trust in too many areas.”
With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank | Uploaded May 13, 2026 | 32:13-32:17
“I do get a lot of people who are concerned about ICE in my district and across the country.”
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