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John Leiber: “We've made about a million dollars last year selling timber…”

Featuring: John Leiber, Republican | Wisconsin Treasurer

Ep.32 - Candidate Spotlight: John Leiber for Treasurer | 12/8/25

Published December 8, 2025 | Video Starts at 08:11

And as you can imagine, it's not the greatest land because that's land that nobody has wanted for over 170 years. So we actually. Yeah, we actually do make some money. We've made about a million dollars last year selling timber rights. and collecting the revenue from that. So it's not just sitting there as a swamp and vacant. But the board has been tasked with keeping the money. (08:11–08:15)

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Asserts that the BCPL made about a million dollars last year from selling timber rights.

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“I didn't vote to make Sarah the chair of the board, but I lost that one. Two to one.”
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