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Troy Meink: “I don't know if we've been had a data scientist in the NRO…”

Featuring: Troy Meink, Secretary of the Air Force | National

Dr. Troy Meink | Schriever Spacepower Series

Published October 17, 2024 | Video Starts at 38:43

But we get more specifically whether it's machine learning or deep learning kind of large language models, you really have to look at the application. And this has been huge investments. I think the NRO probably had. Had. You know, I don't know if we've been had a data scientist in the NRO ten years ago now we have a lot of them. We have a program set up, we're training, bringing them on, just that's part of the recruiting talent. (38:43–38:49)

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Asserts that the NRO now employs many data scientists, whereas it did not have any ten years ago.

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“The Electro Optical contract we awarded a couple years ago, which is about $4 billion over 10 years, is an example.”
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“The primary mission of the National Reconnaissance Office is to help maintain the US Intelligence advantage globally.”
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“NRO has a broad set of customers, obviously war fighters.”
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“We've been doing this extensively really since the first Gulf War.”
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“Our mission is becoming more challenging and more important than ever.”
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“The NRO has been at the leading edge really for years.”
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“We are evolving from dozens to really to hundreds of satellites.”
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“This is to make the collection capability more responsive, timely, while increasing our resiliency.”
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“In the last 60 years of our existence, we've been dealing with rapidly growing data volumes that we have to process and support…”
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“China and Russia continue to challenge our nation's advantage. Each has developed and deployed counter space capabilities that are designed…”
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“Cyber...probably one of the largest growths and expenses within the NRO percentage wise has been in the cyber arena.”
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“It's obviously very concerning that the Russians may be considering incorporation of nuclear weapons into their basically counter space…”
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“China is looking to deny our ability to operate in the space, creating a heightened threat environment.”
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“It's essential for the NRO to continue to modernize ISR capabilities and the supporting ground infrastructure.”
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“Commercial partnerships have evolved to rank among the NRO's most effective means in meeting some of the customer requirements in achieving…”
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“The NRO has historically been a key player in those military operations, providing intelligence to support them.”
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“Data collected in process oftentimes supports both Title 10 and Title 50 customers at the same time.”
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“One of the most important relationships obviously is with US Space Force.”
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“Success is directly related to talent and the workforce, particularly with the rapidly evolving technology environment.”
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“Cyber and some of the threats to our ground infrastructure is probably the biggest and most likely threat we will see.”
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“The rate of change given the threats we face...requires a rate of change that's really faster than maybe almost since the beginning of the…”
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“A third of the interim workforce is essentially DoD, most of them being Space Force, Air Force.”
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“Many of the timelines we're talking about today, the NRO is already supporting.”
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“Silent Barker is... one of those missions that is critical to both all of space.”
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“The vehicles are on orbit. It's going to be a critical, critical capability with additional capability coming in the future.”
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“The NRO was a joint DOD, Title 10, Title 50, IC organization from inception.”
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“The NRO is a joint organization supporting both the DoD and the IC intelligence side.”
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“Most of the data we collect is used both by Title 10 and Title 50 because many of the missions heavily overlap.”
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“The data we collect today and going forward is distributed to everybody.”
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“There's been a big focus at the DNI ODNI level to lower classification to enable dissemination.”
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“The NRO is a big champion of [lowering classification levels].”
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“We expect to be one of the first users of NSSL Phase 3.”
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“We've launched on over the last couple years on 10 or five different rockets.”
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“Decreasing launch costs have been a big enabler in what we've been able to do.”
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“We had one Maxar, the predecessor to Maxar, that was it. Right. You know, now we have three on contract.”
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“Now we have, I don't know what the number is right now, but it's, it's, it's well, was well north of five different vendors, probably seven…”
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“We don't have to develop them from scratch. In many cases, we're just adapting them to our environment.”
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“It's like on the order of 50 applicants, for every interim, we bring in [to] NRO.”
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“The NRO is responsible for procuring pixels.”
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“NGA really looking at procuring analytics.”
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“The NRO's been asked both by the DOD and AIC to procure pixels.”
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“Ground-based sensors and different phenomenologies of ground-based sensors are the best answer in other cases.”
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“Fusing all that data together from the commercial world and government systems is critical.”
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“You have to understand what's going on in the environment and it requires all those sensors to do it.”
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“The rapid advancement in digital electronics that's been fueled by the commercial industry is probably the biggest driver in what we're able…”
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“Even solar arrays behave differently in space than they do on the ground.”
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“Larger rockets are cheaper per pound to orbit.”
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“It's more cost-effective to buy a smaller rocket for one satellite to a particular orbit.”
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“We've used Minotaur, not really commercial, but it's smaller rocket.”
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“We did some obviously with, with Virgin out of the UK didn't go well.”
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“We do on over processing and we use various techniques to oftentimes to lower the data volume metrics down.”
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“We do that on the ground as well.”
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“We are definitely employing all those across the entire spectrum room.”
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