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Ron Johnson: “Other mandatory hit well over $2 trillion during COVID.”

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Senator Ron Johnson Discusses Fiscal Responsibility and Budget Reconciliation Challenges

Published May 25, 2025 | Video Starts at 04:38

But we have, I would say, deviously slid all kinds of discretionary spending into other mandatory that really exploded during COVID where I think Other mandatory hit well over $2 trillion during COVID. Last fiscal year was about $1.3 trillion. This year will be over a trillion. So it went from $642 billion in 2019. (04:38–04:51)

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