I think it's just harder now because people stick out positions and they can't walk away from them because they think you're somehow softening or you're caving in. And I think The challenges are coming to conservatives from the right to Democrats from the left, liberal Democrats from the left. And I look at it now and it's worrisome to me because I think that it means it's harder to get other things and bigger things done afterwards. (57:55–58:06)
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Asserts that political challenges are coming from the extremes of both parties.
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