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Featuring: Michael Baumgartner, Republican | U.S. House Washington, 5th Congressional District

Congressman Michael Baumgartner on Operation Epic Fury and US Strategy

Published March 27, 2026 | Video Starts at 16:33

JSPA was a special think tank for the ambassador. And we also during the Iraq surge, I got out there in May 07, left in June of 08. We did some strategic studies for the ambassador on what happens if we preemptively pull out of Iraq. If any of you remember the general betrayal testimony with moveon.org, up here, I helped prepare some of the analysis for that testimony. (16:33–16:39)

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Asserts that strategic studies were conducted on the implications of a preemptive U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.

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“This regime is first a revolutionary regime and it's a regime that is led by Shia Islamic fanatics.”
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“Many Americans have been killed over the last nearly 50 years, whether it was in Beirut with Hezbollah or Khobar Towers.”
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“The Iranians have been a threat to the west and to the peace-loving world for the better part of 50 years.”
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“The decision of Iran to really facilitate the next phase of their development of their proxy forces, particularly Hezbollah and in southern…”
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“They equip them with that missile capability to put the regional partners under threat.”
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“Thank goodness that President Trump and Republicans and those on the other side of the aisle that have supported increasing American energy…”
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“The Iranian regime is a threat, a significant threat, and they're a threat that was weaker than they've ever been.”
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“The regime was willing to kill them [20,000 to 30,000 Iranians].”
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“The administration is looking at...they will degrade their capabilities significantly as they go down that analysis.”
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“We had a lot of progress during the Iraq surge.”
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“He's been the best press president on the Middle east, and I think. Or the most significant since Dwight Eisenhower.”
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“Lindsey [Graham] stood up and said, we're going into Iran.”
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“The President has been tremendous to the elimination of Soleimani, the Abraham Accords.”
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“Turkey in how they envision themselves and potentially the UAE in Egypt as well, too.”
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“Afghanistan was the most challenging development case in the world, even if there wasn't a war.”
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