And it has to be seriously tough. I mean, so tough penalties that people think twice before they come to our nation as resorting to that. I'm not for amnesty. We tried that back in the 1980s. And all that does is it encourages more people to come to our shores. My view of these people in the caravan. We have to follow the law, Andy. (30:45–30:50)
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Opposes amnesty, referencing past attempts in the 1980s.
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