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Mark Pocan: “The COVID pandemic under Trump was a disaster.”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

Representative Mark Pocan Town Hall in Madison January 2025

Published January 30, 2025 | Video Starts at 1:16:11

All right. I didn't say anyone's name. I didn't say anyone's name. Okay. Bird flu. The COVID pandemic under Trump was a disaster. I think they estimate we had had a better response. Yes. What is Congress going to do as this continues to escalate? Because it seems like it. Yeah. (1:16:11–1:16:15)

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Asserts that the COVID pandemic response under Trump was a disaster.

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Mark Pocan

“This is an unprecedented amount of executive orders and executive actions coming out of Donald Trump.”
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“He [Trump] put at least people who are professionals in this area [CDC], but he also didn't take their advice.”
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“The GOP is in control of the House by right now, a one seat margin.”
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“They couldn't really govern the first time Donald Trump was president when they had a majority.”
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“Project 2025 is here, right? Many, many of the executive orders and actions are directly out of Project 2025.”
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“We have a continuing resolution that funds government through March 14th.”
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“Since the start of this administration, ICE has reported they've made 4800 in 29 arrests.”
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“Donald Trump has talked about privatizing the Postal Service.”
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“Many of Donald Trump's executive orders are likely not legal.”
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“Reconciliation, tax fight. That is probably the biggest fight you will see us have in Congress, and that will likely be in April.”
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“This executive order or action to reduce federal funding... looking at 2,600 different federal agencies to go after.”
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“Wisconsin already is a state that did not expand Medicaid.”
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“It would cost 4 trillion over the next 10 years just to do a simple extension of the tax break that they offered last time.”
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“83% of the tax break that Trump has done last time and if he continued at this time would 83% would go to the top 1% of people in this…”
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“It's 10, 15 times cheaper to take care of someone in their home than put them in a nursing home.”
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“We're not part of the [International Criminal Court].”
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“The Senate just said they will not take that bill up because they need 60 votes.”
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“There are 75 kids playing sports in the public schools in Utah. Four are trans, one is a trans girl.”
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“Over 80% of those trans kids have had thoughts of suicidality because of the bullying of adults.”
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“The Lake and Riley Act allows deportation without due process if accused of a crime.”
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“Donald Trump overturned executive orders that Joe Biden had done.”
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“Federal employee unions strategize with Congress on workers' rights.”
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“Benjamin Netanyahu is likely a war criminal according to the international court.”
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“Over 47,000 people, minimum, have been killed [in the conflict involving Israel].”
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“The number of Hamas in the entire country fighting was 30,000 out of 2.2 million people.”
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“I will never support offensive weapons until something changes there.”
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“I am also dissatisfied that President Biden, towards the end, approved another sale of weapons.”
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“UNRWA was the group that fed, I think it was 60% of the people, the 2.2 million people every day.”
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“40% or 50% of the kids in Gaza were educated by the UN.”
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“UNRWA does an amazing job of what they do there, and therefore they've been targeted.”
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“UNRWA is a very important group.”
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“They have to by I think Tuesday be out of the area completely by Israeli law.”
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“We had funded them. That funding has now gone away.”
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“I don't think it's going to get better immediately.”
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“I support the UN almost complicitly here.”
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“Getting out of the World Health Organization makes no sense.”
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“We got out of the Paris climate agreement immediately.”
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“We're going to be cutting back all the Inflation Reduction act funding that helped fund trying to do the changes that we were trying to do.”
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“All of our mail now is processed out of Milwaukee.”
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“He's trying to do every state taking 13 or more areas that process, like in Georgia, down to a single spot and slowing down the delivery…”
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“There's a lot of reasons why, besides the constitutional reference to the Postal Service, that it's important to keep the Postal Service…”
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“The Democrats in the Senate screwed up because they did not prioritize approving those board of governor appointments that Joe Biden had.”
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“There's a rural program for mail. They tested in Wisconsin and Virginia and it dropped our delivery rates by 20-25%.”
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“HR722 is the start of a national abortion ban.”
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“Technically, we have 1849 law in Wisconsin affecting, excuse me, on abortion.”
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“If they freeze NIH, National Institutes of Health funding, I'm going to try to apologize every time I say an acronym.”
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“Every drug I think in the last 15 or 20 years that's come to market has had support from our tax dollars through the National Institutes of…”
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“They're looking to steal money from veterans so they could give Elon Musk more money to put spaceships in the air.”
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“Department of Veterans Affairs [programs] are on the chopping block with the executive orders and actions.”
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“The VA is facing staffing shortages.”
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“The acting VA administrator said they're going to waiver for 300,000 of the positions.”
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“Diversity, equity and inclusion [programs] are absolutely on the target list.”
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“Inflation happened in 12 or 14 countries that are very similar to us across the globe.”
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“50% said [the economy and inflation] was why [they voted the way they did].”
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“You're going to see likely more inflation under Donald Trump if he does what he wants to.”
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“He's talking and he's clearly implied that he's going to do tariffs across the board tariffs.”
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“We pay for those tariffs because everything will cost a little more.”
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“They will try to move towards private vouchers.”
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“In Wisconsin, the law was cleaned up, but in many of these states, they will do things like this.”
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“You're taking that money directly out of public education.”
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“Some of the kids that need it most, especially in special education, they're not going to those voucher schools.”
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“Project 2025 is over 900 pages.”
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“Project 2025 was so unpopular, no one wanted anything to do with it.”
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“You're going to kick out possibly up to 8,000 people from the military who are serving this country.”
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“In one of the first day or two of sweeps, they detained overnight a veteran because they looked like an immigrant.”
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