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Mark Pocan: “Donald Trump would want the shutdown so he could prove that…”

Featuring: Mark Pocan, Democratic | U.S. House, Wisconsin, District 2

Rep. Mark Pocan talks Democrats walking out of Trump's speech of lies.

Published March 5, 2025 | Video Starts at 24:33

I actually, I don't. A Trump government shutdown is better than an open one, but it causes too much pain for people, so I can't root for that. Obviously, I originally thought Donald Trump would want the shutdown so he could prove that the federal government, you know, shutting down doesn't impact your life to justify his cuts. But he apparently has endorsed the House initiative going forward to fund a CR til the end of the year. So flat funding, essentially. (24:33–24:40)

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“55% of seniors in nursing homes, including my mom in her final years, was on Medicaid.”
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“45% of adults with disabilities who live in their homes are on Medicaid.”
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“They want to cut 45% of the Department of Education under the community jurisdiction education.”
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“He just got a contract that Verizon actually had won and somehow it went to Starlink.”
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“He's had 20 billion plus in contracts, but he's got getting new ones literally every week.”
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“99.9% of that food we were sending as aid overseas comes from places like my district.”
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“We are getting record numbers of phone calls and emails right now.”
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“Our number one trading partner is Canada. Number two is Mexico. Number three is China.”
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“The number one issue going for him on Election Day November was the economy. And now it's the biggest detriment for him.”
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“We haven't felt the impact yet of a lot of these tariffs.”
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“They put it on the national debt and our kids and our grandkids pay for it like they did the last time.”
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“Intentional is their quest to get this tax cut done. That is their number one priority, without question.”
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“The last item, I think they were about by a factor of 20 to one off on what the actual savings was.”
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