But the difference is that, again, I can't opine on the specifics of his case because I wasn't involved in the pardon. But he was not a sitting office holder. He was not even the … Maduro's nephews were convicted narco traffickers, convicted already and serving time in jail. … But I'm going to move on to some foreign policy decision making here because despite the fact that you famously or infamously have numerous jobs in the administration, your Secretary … (2:35:28–2:35:33)
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Asserts that Maduro's nephews were convicted and serving time as narco traffickers.
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