The long term plan is for them to have a normal energy program that sells directly into the market, directly to refineries and to companies that are exploiting and exploring it. For example, Chevron has operations [in Venezuela] that never stopped. They seek to expand those operations. They don't use, they don't need those trading companies. So those trading companies were a short term fix for a very acute problem because we wanted to prevent societal collapse because they had no money for revenue. (1:02:21–1:02:24)
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