… executive would be honorable, that the executive would, would, would do this with morality and real scruples in mind. And, and I think what we're seeing with the president is If you sidle up to [the President] at his swim club, you donate a certain amount of money maybe, or you have his ear for some other social reason, you can usually get him to give a pardon. to someone who's important to you. Yeah, the, the pardons definitely are super troubling. How do you deal with the family members and the kids enriching themselves? (44:50–45:01)
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