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Jonathon Hill: “Utility scale hydrogen is a really promising avenue.”

Featuring: Jonathon Hill, Democratic | Former Candidate, Arizona Corporation Commission

Jonathan Hill, Candidate for AZ Corporation Commission

Published January 30, 2022 | Video Starts at 43:19

Help the engineers work out those problems on a utility size scale with an example project. Yeah. And obviously, utility scale batteries have their own issues in terms of mining and sourcing those metals. Looking at Utility scale hydrogen is a really promising avenue. Are you aware of any proposals by any of the Arizona utilities to adopt or explore the possibility of utility scale hydrogen? Unfortunately, no. I know people here at ASU are working on it. (43:19–43:24)

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