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Jonathan Hill, Candidate for AZ Corporation Commission

Published January 30, 2022 | Video Starts at 35:31

And if they're not, I don't think those applications should be approved. However, one of the interesting engineering aspects of this is that especially Coal burning power plants use a lot of water resources for steam generation and cooling. It's a surprising amount of water that's being used. And so it's not only a CO2 issue, it's also a water issue. (35:31–35:40)

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“Hackings of either power networks or water treatment plants are increasing at a concerning rate.”
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“NASA has been basically under cyber siege for the last 20 plus years, just constant attacks.”
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“Utility companies being taken down by relatively simple things that we have protections against.”
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“Current transmission network is built to go to places that have coal deposits, go to places that have natural gas deposits.”
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“Three big transmission line projects in Arizona are at various stages of approval.”
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“Corporation commission doesn't fully regulate [transmission line projects], but it has a large say.”
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“Until those transmission lines exist, we won't be able to build the solar, the wind power plants that we so desperately want.”
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“Commission needs to do a lot more to streamline [the nonprofit registration] process.”
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“There are two Democrats out of the five commissioners, and so we're in the minority.”
Jonathan Hill, Candidate for AZ Corporation Commission | Uploaded January 30, 2022 | 14:02-14:08
“This year, we have one democratic seat, one republican seat up for reelection.”
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“The energy rules package... is aiming for an elimination of fossil fuels in Arizona by 2070.”
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“That falls mostly to the Department of Energy.”
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“The commission's biggest problem is that people don't know what they do and they don't know the science behind what the commission is…”
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“The science [of utility scale hydrogen] is pretty well understood.”
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“I'd like to have zero carbon energy in Arizona's future in my lifetime.”
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“Decommission the remaining coal plants in Arizona a couple years faster, that's a huge amount of CO2 that you're preventing from being…”
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“I am 100% in favor of full renewable energy generation in Arizona.”
Jonathan Hill, Candidate for AZ Corporation Commission | Uploaded January 30, 2022 | 25:32-25:40
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“AP's can then say, well, financially, we can't build it, it's not financially feasible. Well, suddenly you put the transmission line in and…”
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“I think the commission also needs to use its ability as one of the government agencies to push for solar on state owned property.”
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“State owned [land] can be used for solar energy without a lot of property issues.”
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“Overhead transmission lines can lead to forest fires in places like California.”
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“The added expense of underground transmission lines is necessary in areas prone to forest fires.”
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“Palo Verde is coming very close to the end of its reasonably expected lifetime.”
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“The corporation commission does not regulate some water distribution networks.”
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“Replacing coal with solar, wind, and geothermal includes much less water input.”
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“Desalinating water for either drinking water or use in agriculture is extremely, extremely energy intensive.”
Jonathan Hill, Candidate for AZ Corporation Commission | Uploaded January 30, 2022 | 37:16-37:26
“The area between the Arizona border and the Gulf of California is a biological preserve.”
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“The commission wouldn't have any, or at least much direct regulatory authority over [converting farm crops to solar farms].”
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“Natural gas plants do play an important role in the power grid.”
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Jonathan Hill, Candidate for AZ Corporation Commission | Uploaded January 30, 2022 | 45:05-45:18
“The commission has authority over pipeline building.”
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“Indigenous communities in Arizona have enabled through their mineral wealth and their water wealth, all the, basically all of our cities.”
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“We can only accept $180 per individual and still maintain our compliance with those [clean elections] rules.”
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